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Open source English-Hebrew dictionary
Elazar Leibovich
2010-10-06 18:07:04 UTC
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Is there an open source English Hebrew Dictionary? I'm interested with
usable program that once you'll enter an English word, it would display the
Hebrew translation. Specifically for the Android platform, but I believe
that I'll be able to adapt any desktop application to a mobile device quite
easily.

I'm aware of the Limon project (http://www.jlc.org.il/limon/), but I'm not
sure how to download the word list or the translation software. Except, the
word list is not too long (6k).

Is there a free dictionary in book form (ie, with no copyright holders)? I
don't mind typing it.
Amos Shapira
2010-10-07 03:28:25 UTC
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Post by Elazar Leibovich
Is there an open source English Hebrew Dictionary? I'm interested with
usable program that once you'll enter an English word, it would display the
Hebrew translation. Specifically for the Android platform, but I believe
that I'll be able to adapt any desktop application to a mobile device quite
easily.
I'm aware of the Limon project (http://www.jlc.org.il/limon/), but I'm not
sure how to download the word list or the translation software. Except, the
word list is not too long (6k).
Is there a free dictionary in book form (ie, with no copyright holders)? I
don't mind typing it.
Not a direct solution to your question but are you aware of Google Translate?
(http://bit.ly/bQgSdG) (זענט איר וויסנד פון גוגל איבערזעצן?) (It
sounds better in Yiddish :).

It's Google and you mentioned Android, so I though it's appropriate to
mention here.

--Amos
Yedidyah Bar-David
2010-10-07 06:54:17 UTC
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Post by Elazar Leibovich
Is there an open source English Hebrew Dictionary? I'm interested with
usable program that once you'll enter an English word, it would display the
Hebrew translation. Specifically for the Android platform, but I believe
that I'll be able to adapt any desktop application to a mobile device quite
easily.
I'm aware of the Limon project (http://www.jlc.org.il/limon/), but I'm not
sure how to download the word list or the translation software. Except, the
word list is not too long (6k).
If you'll search the list archives, you'll find some posts ten years ago
about wordtrans/qwordtrans/kwordtrans which can read babylon old-format
dictionaries and which I then managed to make read also the Hebrew
encoding. Not sure about the status of the project, but you might manage
to compile and use it.

Babylon's old dictionaries are not easy to find on the web, but you might
be able to find some.
Post by Elazar Leibovich
Is there a free dictionary in book form (ie, with no copyright holders)? I
don't mind typing it.
As others said, I personally use only google translate these days. It's
good enough, of course not as fast as a local tool if you are reading in
some other software, but I did not bother looking for local tools. For
reading stuff on the net, I think it's very good. You can make it show
the original text and when you point at a sentence it pops up a
translation. The translation is usually very bad, which is why I never
use it to read the translation itself, but good enough if you only need
one word.
--
Didi
Yedidyah Bar-David
2010-10-07 07:17:14 UTC
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Thanks for the input.
1) Babylon's dictionary files are not free or opensource (as far as I know).
So distributing them might not be legal.
Indeed. But back then they were freely-downloadable from their site,
so if you manage to find one, I do not think it's a big difference
if you download it now or have downloaded it then from them. They moved
to a new format a long time ago and deleted all the old files.

Note IANAL.
2) Google translate does not replace a dictionary, which defines the word
exactly, when it's a noun, verb or otherwise, include usage examples, etc.
Indeed. For this I use google dictionary. And sometimes Reuven Alkalay's
paper dictionary... If it would have been sold on CDs, I am pretty certain
I'd buy one.

Wiktionary is also very useful. It has very little English-Hebrew material,
but more stuff in other languages, and I also think that if you decide to
donate some time (as you implied you might do), this is probably the place
to do this.
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Didi
Shlomi Fish
2010-10-07 08:02:59 UTC
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Hi all,
Post by Yedidyah Bar-David
Thanks for the input.
1) Babylon's dictionary files are not free or opensource (as far as I
know). So distributing them might not be legal.
Indeed. But back then they were freely-downloadable from their site,
so if you manage to find one, I do not think it's a big difference
if you download it now or have downloaded it then from them. They moved
to a new format a long time ago and deleted all the old files.
Note IANAL.
2) Google translate does not replace a dictionary, which defines the word
exactly, when it's a noun, verb or otherwise, include usage examples, etc.
Indeed. For this I use google dictionary. And sometimes Reuven Alkalay's
paper dictionary... If it would have been sold on CDs, I am pretty certain
I'd buy one.
Wiktionary is also very useful. It has very little English-Hebrew material,
but more stuff in other languages, and I also think that if you decide to
donate some time (as you implied you might do), this is probably the place
to do this.
As Amir Aharoni noted in his presentation, the problem with the Wiktionaries
is that their format is not free-form instead of structured as needed by a
dictionary. There's an alternative dictionary project called OmegaWiki, which
is more structured:

http://www.omegawiki.org/

It is available under the same licensing as the Wikimedia project, which
allows for cross-polination between it and the Wiktionaries.

Regards,

Shlomi Fish
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Elazar Leibovich
2010-10-07 06:58:01 UTC
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Thanks for the input.

Two inputs:

1) Babylon's dictionary files are not free or opensource (as far as I know).
So distributing them might not be legal.

2) Google translate does not replace a dictionary, which defines the word
exactly, when it's a noun, verb or otherwise, include usage examples, etc.
Jason Friedman
2010-10-07 11:04:53 UTC
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Hi all,
Post by Elazar Leibovich
Is there an open source English Hebrew Dictionary? I'm interested with
usable program that once you'll enter an English word, it would display the
Hebrew translation. Specifically for the Android platform, but I believe
that I'll be able to adapt any desktop application to a mobile device quite
easily.
I'm aware of the Limon project (http://www.jlc.org.il/limon/), but I'm not
sure how to download the word list or the translation software. Except, the
word list is not too long (6k).
Is there a free dictionary in book form (ie, with no copyright holders)? I
don't mind typing it.
I am also interested in writing an offline android English-Hebrew
dictionary. I found this site which has bilingual dictionaries,
licensed under the GNU FDL, although none of them seem to be have too
many words:

http://dicts.info/uddl.php

But I'll be happy to cooperate in preparing an application (although I
have no android experience . . . )

Jason
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Postdoctoral scholar
Macquarie Centre for Cognitive Science
Macquarie University, NSW 2109 Australia
email: ***@gmail.com
web: http://curiousjason.com
sara fink
2010-10-07 13:14:47 UTC
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There is a english hebrew talking dictionary
LingvoSoft_Talking_Dictionary_2006_English-Hebrew_v3.1.55.rar<http://www.filez.com/securelinkout.jsp?l=ai8JAqQzGZnae67QDxbUlolfpiStshUahL4T20ssvs2sHpjYaMv-eeUpTjZF5ftpGRdLqyjf-zZxn9-HrstKdg9eyMIJXxkAhd0vSbrn>

you can download it from here:
http://www.rapidshare.com/#!download|29|16065999|LingvoSoft_Talking_Dictionary_2006_English-Hebrew_v3.1.55.rar|1892

Maybe that's a start.
Post by Elazar Leibovich
Is there an open source English Hebrew Dictionary? I'm interested with
usable program that once you'll enter an English word, it would display the
Hebrew translation. Specifically for the Android platform, but I believe
that I'll be able to adapt any desktop application to a mobile device quite
easily.
I'm aware of the Limon project (http://www.jlc.org.il/limon/), but I'm not
sure how to download the word list or the translation software. Except, the
word list is not too long (6k).
Is there a free dictionary in book form (ie, with no copyright holders)? I
don't mind typing it.
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Dotan Cohen
2010-10-07 13:18:34 UTC
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Post by sara fink
There is a english hebrew talking dictionary
LingvoSoft_Talking_Dictionary_2006_English-Hebrew_v3.1.55.rar
http://www.rapidshare.com/#!download|29|16065999|LingvoSoft_Talking_Dictionary_2006_English-Hebrew_v3.1.55.rar|1892
Maybe that's a start.
I don't think that Rapidshare is an officially licenced distributor of
that software:
http://www.lingvosoft.com/Hebrew-items/
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Yigal Asnis
2010-10-10 19:59:41 UTC
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I'm using Stardict. It can translate (pop-up window)/pronounce selected word in any text. Of course, you can type the word as well.
It has open-source heb-eng and eng-heb dictionaries or you can use Babylon's.
Yigal

--- On Wed, 10/6/10, Elazar Leibovich <***@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Elazar Leibovich <***@gmail.com>
Subject: Open source English-Hebrew dictionary
To: "linux-il" <linux-***@cs.huji.ac.il>
Date: Wednesday, October 6, 2010, 11:07 AM

Is there an open source English Hebrew Dictionary? I'm interested with usable program that once you'll enter an English word, it would display the Hebrew translation. Specifically for the Android platform, but I believe that I'll be able to adapt any desktop application to a mobile device quite easily.

I'm aware of the Limon project (http://www.jlc.org.il/limon/), but I'm not sure how to download the word list or the translation software. Except, the word list is not too long (6k).

Is there a free dictionary in book form (ie, with no copyright holders)? I don't mind typing it.

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Elazar Leibovich
2010-10-10 21:14:15 UTC
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I'm using Stardict <http://stardict.sourceforge.net/>. It can translate
(pop-up window)/pronounce selected word in any text. Of course, you can type
the word as well.
It has open-source heb-eng and eng-heb dictionaries or you can use Babylon's.
Yigal
Thanks! It's a very nice program.

But I didn't find an Hebrew dictionary at all! Not in the website, nor in
the forums. Care to give us the exact link to the dictionary?
Yigal Asnis
2010-10-12 17:56:31 UTC
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http://reciteword.cosoft.org.cn/stardict-iso/stardict-dic/babylon/bidirectional/

--- On Sun, 10/10/10, Elazar Leibovich <***@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Elazar Leibovich <***@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Open source English-Hebrew dictionary
To: "Yigal Asnis" <***@yahoo.com>
Cc: "linux-il" <linux-***@cs.huji.ac.il>
Date: Sunday, October 10, 2010, 2:14 PM


2010/10/10 Yigal Asnis <***@yahoo.com>

I'm using Stardict. It can translate (pop-up window)/pronounce selected word in any text. Of course, you can type the word as well.

It has open-source heb-eng and eng-heb dictionaries or you can use Babylon's.
Yigal
Thanks! It's a very nice program.
But I didn't find an Hebrew dictionary at all! Not in the website, nor in the forums. Care to give us the exact link to the dictionary? 
Elazar Leibovich
2010-10-12 18:27:00 UTC
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Thanks. Note their legal status is unclear.
Post by Yigal Asnis
http://reciteword.cosoft.org.cn/stardict-iso/stardict-dic/babylon/bidirectional/
Subject: Re: Open source English-Hebrew dictionary
Date: Sunday, October 10, 2010, 2:14 PM
I'm using Stardict <http://stardict.sourceforge.net/>. It can translate
(pop-up window)/pronounce selected word in any text. Of course, you can type
the word as well.
It has open-source heb-eng and eng-heb dictionaries or you can use Babylon's.
Yigal
Thanks! It's a very nice program.
But I didn't find an Hebrew dictionary at all! Not in the website, nor in
the forums. Care to give us the exact link to the dictionary?
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